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    Spray buds, PM with Compost Tea ?


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    Our garden is near Cave Junction, Oregon. The Chetco Bar Fire (enormous, you can look at the aerial view) caused a 10-day period when there was no sun -- sky was obscured by smoke. Followed by a couple days of rain, which cleared the skies -- sunshine! : )

    About a week after the sunshine returned (4 days ago), white spots of Powdery Mildew were on every plant in the garden. I want to spray with Aerated Compost Tea, and/or Regalia, but does anyone know whether that will cause the buds to mold in this Illinois Valley climate? Has anyone actually done this?
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    Details:
    Temp (at outbreak of PM): 70's day/47 night
    Humidity day & night ~65%
    Hours light: don't know exact. A 2-acre square clearing for the garden (only trees around edges of clearing). Mid-Sept, near Cave Junction, Oregon.

    Water is from well on property. Average pH is ~8.0, and 150ppm. Not lab-tested yet. Don't know water temp, comes directly out of the ground & onto soil beds.
    Containers are 200-gallon smartpots and 6.5-foot square wood raised beds (10" deep)
    Soil is premium, 'Gaia's Gift' brand, made by Good Earth Organics on Hwy 199 south of Cave Junction. With AACT added, once.
    Soil beds have unexpectedly maintaind a very steady temp of 67F from transplanting, right thru hot 112F August days and up to now (Sept).
    Watering: started off light after transplant (June 15th), 4-5 gallons per smartpot/bed every few days. When plants reached 6' during August (hot days of 112F, 115F), watering increased to once-a-day, saturation-level. Now mid-Sept, i'm watering the pots/beds every 3 days, saturation-level.
    Plants have been lucky to not have any signs of mites. No preventitive treatments were used.
    Nutrients: only SeaGrow and SeaBloom (not organics). Plus 85% Phosphoric Acid added to pH nutrient to 6.5. Between feedings, plain waterings (direct from well) are pH 8.0 - pH 8.5.
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    ...i am strictly an indoor grower so i can't speak to your climate questions but i would suggest that you focus your spray on the leaves and that you try not to saturate the buds.

    ...i would also suggest that you add milk to your spray, it works will as an organic fungicide while also boosting the plants immune system and it's totally safe to use right up to harvest.

    ...btw, i would suggest also that you reach out to @Runamuk1, he is a gifted outdoor grower who should be able to help answer your larger questions.

    good luck, SOG

    PS: if you look on YouTube, Jorge has a video how-to on washing powdery mildew from harvested plants.

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    I have pics, but the 'Message' box for this forum isn't showing me an option to attach photos

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    Quote Originally Posted by grow4fun View Post
    I have pics, but the 'Message' box for this forum isn't showing me an option to attach photos
    if you look at the dialog box you type into you'll see a row of formating buttons at the top, the third one in from the right is the one for pics, click that button and another dialog box appears with 2 options, one gives you the ability to upload an image from your pc or mobile and the other option will allow you to use links to wherever on the web your image lives.

    ...the second one in from the right is for videos btw.



    peace, SOG

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    High @grow4fun and thanks @someoldguy,

    Let's see if I can shed some light on your PM issue. You asked if anyone has experience growing in your area. Well if memory servers me today @Tropical has grown in the Cave Junction area and I haven't in Cave Junction but 10+ years growing in Happy Camp might give me some idea what's going on in your area and another 10 years in Arcata/Eureka where everything molds. (Small world eh?)

    Ok first AACT(compost tea) is really easy to brew and I water with the stuff full strength during the grow season. Also using as a foliar feed is great for your plants. But this is another topic completely.

    Do NOT spray your flowers with anything you will only cause Bud rot if it's wet, and then PM becomes a mute point because there won't be any flowers left to fight the PM. With it now being middle of Sept you will be harvesting within a month. So there is not enough time for anything you spray to dissipate before harvest.

    Your weather is going to go from torrential rain to 80 F and back again daily and that is prime for mold to get a foot hold. So what you gotta do now is get the flowers dry as you can asap and keep them that way until you harvest. Fans to move air even in outdoor is a must in that weather if you want to stop mold anyway. I'm talking hurricane force without breaking the plants. Poly domes and fans are great.

    Bottom line is keeping the plants dry with lots and lots of air circulation. I hope you have been cleaning out the insides of the plants of their excess leaves as well as trimming branches within a foot of the ground. We do this so air can get inside the plants.

    Water your plants only when it's needed and early in the day so the soil surface as a chance to dry during the day. This cuts back on the mold forming. ALL fallen leaves need to be picked up under the plants or again dead leaves mold and spores get on the rest of the plants and when conditions are right it will go into total rot overnight!!! You think wildfire moves fast it's nothing like the heartbreak of your entire crop going into gray snot mold overnight. If you see mold in one spot it's all over do not wait for tomorrow to cut it out.

    The powdery mildew can be treated when you harvest H202 (hydrogen Peroxide). It's so late in the season there won't be a loss of production from the PM you have now. But without a photo it's a guess.

    Anyway you have enough to keep you busy until you figure out how to post photos.

    Keep them Green
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    This video might help. Weed Schooling hasn't been making videos for a year so maybe out of business.

    You stick a bunch of females together and don't want any problems? Good luck. They are going to mess you up.

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    Yeah wonder what happened to "Weed Schooling" I thought their Youtube features were great information for the cannabis grower.

    After watching the video looks like I was able to cover all topics she did but I'm not near as nice too look at and she was much more organized than this old stoner could ever be.
    @grow4fun where you are at in Cave Junction there are many very experienced growers and that growing supply shop there has great products formulated for your local area. Just be careful with asking questions from someone who sells products...they are going to sell you something and most of the time that product will do more harm than good in your situation.

    If you can get photos it really helps to figure out your issues and feel free to ask away should you have more questions. Only dumb question is the one that didn't get asked.

    Keep them green
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    PS Just so you know...we love Porn. Bud Porn that is so post away photos of your plants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Runamuk1 View Post
    Yeah wonder what happened to "Weed Schooling" I thought their Youtube features were great information for the cannabis grower.

    After watching the video looks like I was able to cover all topics she did but I'm not near as nice too look at and she was much more organized than this old stoner could ever be.
    @grow4fun where you are at in Cave Junction there are many very experienced growers and that growing supply shop there has great products formulated for your local area. Just be careful with asking questions from someone who sells products...they are going to sell you something and most of the time that product will do more harm than good in your situation.

    If you can get photos it really helps to figure out your issues and feel free to ask away should you have more questions. Only dumb question is the one that didn't get asked.

    Keep them green
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    PS Just so you know...we love Porn. Bud Porn that is so post away photos of your plants.
    She cheated Well there are breaks in recording to plan the next discussion

    I think even neem oil helps prevent mildew. Considering its flowering period uh uh I don't know man.
    Often wondered at times cycling through neem then insecticidal soap how much the soap takes the neem off and if neem prevents soap from sticking but the soap is supposed one shot kill and no good after dried I believe. Maybe weapons of mass destruction. I'd wish if having to go neem in flower that a following soap bath then then water rinse would work but I don't know. There has been worse smoked.
    You stick a bunch of females together and don't want any problems? Good luck. They are going to mess you up.

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    Well @Tropical I use soap as a spreader sticker.

    Spreader Sticker= soap breaks the surface tension of the water and lets the product you really want on the plant to get on the plant. As we know, oil and water don't mix so the soap as a spreader sticker lets the Oil get all over the area we want to disinfect. At least that is how the House of Muk does it

    So if you are spraying Neem oil put 2 drops of Dial soap/per gal and you will get a much better application of Neem.

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